wow! good analysis! looking at your plots, "airglow" is clearly a small component in the residual noise plots. i found earlier, using a detailed analysis of scans definitely classified as airglow from the quality analysts, that: ---------- Large H residual noise is always accompanied by large J and K residual noise. Plots of J and K residual noise vs. H residual noise for all coadds with H residual coadd noise above 2 DN and for all values for the scans identified as having significant airglow show that: There is a tight correlation between the residual coadd noise in all bands when the H residual coadd noise is large. There are occasional discrepant points where the J or K residual coadd noise is even larger than expected from the tight relationship. An additional noise source, such as a bright star, must be present in those coadds. The relationship between the J : H : K residual coadd noises is 0.05 : 1.00 : 0.18, significantly different from the 0.13-0.20 : 1.00 : 0.35 relationship in the absolute background level. ----------- http://spider.ipac.caltech.edu/staff/tchester/2mass/analysis/galaxies/backgrounds/analysis.html see the plots referenced there for the background for those numbers. in particular: http://spider.ipac.caltech.edu/staff/tchester/2mass/analysis/galaxies/backgrounds/low_density/colors_excess_noise.html shows plots where there is clear correlation between the residual background sigma between the bands. converting the relations that i previously found for airglow scans: j residual noise = 0.05 h residual noise k = 0.18 h to your score, i get: j score = 0.09 h score k score = 0.33 h score equivalent to: j = 0.27 k score h = 3 k score so only the points along the bottom envelope for your score j vs score k plot, and along the top envelope for your score h vs score k plot, are probably due to airglow. the vast number of other points away from the envelope must be due to bright stars, galaxies, etc., that you have consistently claimed cause a lot of the deviations. (recall that in my plots referenced above, i just used scans identified as airglow scans, so the airglow relation stands out in my analysis, whereas your plots are representative of the entire data set.) as you say: We have not seen the last of this issue. Noise is everywhere and relentless. i'll add: and tremendously complicated....